HP Mini Guide

McDethWivFries · 08-19-2008, 01:05 AM

Just found this for all those looking/thinking of upping their HDD to an SSD for the mininote...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...rive,2000.html

wikifun · 08-19-2008, 06:09 AM

Enough said, some serious work here:

How I figured out my OCZ Core 64GB SSD
http://www.alternativerecursion.info/?p=106

This is for the Core 1 OCZ SSD. The Core 2 is harder to get today.

mikez · 08-19-2008, 06:38 AM

An oversight in the write considerations -
The SSD drive is being treated as a synchronous logical unit - like a single threaded program.
Only they are not built like that - the are multiple, asynchronous, logical units run by a micro-controller - more similar to a multi-threaded program.

The sequence: read an erase block, erase a block, re-write the block is not done in synchronism with the writing data to the buffer.
It may be also performed by multiple asynchronous logical units - -
One maintaining a pool of erased blocks, one erasing a block, one doing the data merge, one doing the ecc - etc.

Translation:
If you delayed the next operation by the equivalent cycle time of the "background processes" to complete after every write (any size) - -
effectively giving the device time to stay in synchronism with the write demands - -
Then the noise (or fishy) measurements in the write performance would be removed from the data.
I.E: The performance software is not designed for SSD measurements, just HDD.

Rob · 08-19-2008, 09:28 AM

Just got my 64Gb OCZ Core Series SSD (finally), cloned my 120Gb HDD to it using HDCLone 3.2 but it does not boot! (just get a cursor). Any ideas, am I doing something stupid? Tried Windows recovery in case it was the MBR but still nothing... Help?! Thanks

EDIT: Just realised I've been stupid - there is obviously no MBR on my newly cloned SSD as I took the 'Partition > Disk' option in HDCLone 3.2 and not 'Disk > Disk' which would have included the MBR. Obvious. Anyway, cloning again now with 'Disk > Disk' (as the Windows Recovery takes you back to SP2) and will see if it works after that.

McDethWivFries · 08-20-2008, 02:45 AM

Be cool to see how more responsive your 2133 is with the OCZ, they are pretty cheap here . . . well relativly speaking (o:

baius · 11-18-2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McDethWivFries

Be cool to see how more responsive your 2133 is with the OCZ, they are pretty cheap here . . . well relativly speaking (o:

It's not all about price...

baius · 11-18-2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McDethWivFries

Be cool to see how more responsive your 2133 is with the OCZ, they are pretty cheap here . . . well relativly speaking (o:

It's not all about price...

gregw · 11-19-2008, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob

Just got my 64Gb OCZ Core Series SSD (finally), cloned my 120Gb HDD to it using HDCLone 3.2 but it does not boot! (just get a cursor). Any ideas, am I doing something stupid? Tried Windows recovery in case it was the MBR but still nothing... Help?! Thanks

EDIT: Just realised I've been stupid - there is obviously no MBR on my newly cloned SSD as I took the 'Partition > Disk' option in HDCLone 3.2 and not 'Disk > Disk' which would have included the MBR. Obvious. Anyway, cloning again now with 'Disk > Disk' (as the Windows Recovery takes you back to SP2) and will see if it works after that.

So, did the 2nd method work?

gregw · 11-19-2008, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob

Just got my 64Gb OCZ Core Series SSD (finally), cloned my 120Gb HDD to it using HDCLone 3.2 but it does not boot! (just get a cursor). Any ideas, am I doing something stupid? Tried Windows recovery in case it was the MBR but still nothing... Help?! Thanks

EDIT: Just realised I've been stupid - there is obviously no MBR on my newly cloned SSD as I took the 'Partition > Disk' option in HDCLone 3.2 and not 'Disk > Disk' which would have included the MBR. Obvious. Anyway, cloning again now with 'Disk > Disk' (as the Windows Recovery takes you back to SP2) and will see if it works after that.

So, did the 2nd method work?

diasbora · 12-13-2008, 11:16 PM

any particular performance gains with an SSD over a standard HDD? Faster write speeds? Battery life?

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08-19-2008, 06:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
wikifun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 112	Enough said, some serious work here: How I figured out my OCZ Core 64GB SSD http://www.alternativerecursion.info/?p=106 This is for the Core 1 OCZ SSD. The Core 2 is harder to get today.

08-19-2008, 06:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
mikez Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,484	An oversight in the write considerations - The SSD drive is being treated as a synchronous logical unit - like a single threaded program. Only they are not built like that - the are multiple, asynchronous, logical units run by a micro-controller - more similar to a multi-threaded program. The sequence: read an erase block, erase a block, re-write the block is not done in synchronism with the writing data to the buffer. It may be also performed by multiple asynchronous logical units - - One maintaining a pool of erased blocks, one erasing a block, one doing the data merge, one doing the ecc - etc. Translation: If you delayed the next operation by the equivalent cycle time of the "background processes" to complete after every write (any size) - - effectively giving the device time to stay in synchronism with the write demands - - Then the noise (or fishy) measurements in the write performance would be removed from the data. I.E: The performance software is not designed for SSD measurements, just HDD.

08-19-2008, 09:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rob Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 51	Just got my 64Gb OCZ Core Series SSD (finally), cloned my 120Gb HDD to it using HDCLone 3.2 but it does not boot! (just get a cursor). Any ideas, am I doing something stupid? Tried Windows recovery in case it was the MBR but still nothing... Help?! Thanks EDIT: Just realised I've been stupid - there is obviously no MBR on my newly cloned SSD as I took the 'Partition > Disk' option in HDCLone 3.2 and not 'Disk > Disk' which would have included the MBR. Obvious. Anyway, cloning again now with 'Disk > Disk' (as the Windows Recovery takes you back to SP2) and will see if it works after that.

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McDethWivFries Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 74	Be cool to see how more responsive your 2133 is with the OCZ, they are pretty cheap here . . . well relativly speaking (o:

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diasbora Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 47	any particular performance gains with an SSD over a standard HDD? Faster write speeds? Battery life?