HP Mini Guide

boostedboogie · 07-20-2008, 10:09 PM

and for the record, i knew it was against apple's policy. i never said it wasn't. just wanted to clarify.

laos · 07-20-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by boostedboogie

its a completely legal version that i own. there are still a lot of bugs to work out though.

* the 1280×768 resolution is seriously distorting the boot screen. need to find a way to make my own boot screen that fits and load it on there.
* login screen works and users were setup, but it doesn’t ask to login. good thing this is a personal laptop and not shared.
* the dock is a little glitchy with the mini note’s hardware. not sure if it’s an issue with the mini itself or if it’s an os/driver thing. too lazy to figure it out.
* dock settings, control panel, etc are all accessible.

definitely have some things to work out on the kernel side, but osx is usable. haven’t installed anything as of yet, so no word on performance, usability, lag, programs, blah blah blah blah blah, but boot time is still pretty slow like xp. somewhere in the 1-3 minute range, haven't timed it yet.

who ever said owning the copy is legal?

According to Apple's EULA, you MUST use it on only Mac Authed machines, or on windows if you own the 2000$ dev copy which is windows supported

Junner2003 · 07-20-2008, 10:47 PM

Oh, common! Get real, guys!
Even if he would eat it for breakfast! It is his copy. Let him violate the Apple policies as much as he wants to!

As long as he does not make any commercial use out of it, it is his damn business. So, let him eat it or put it on his Mini-Note if he likes.
:roll:

mikez · 07-21-2008, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostedboogie

and for the record, i knew it was against apple's policy. i never said it wasn't. just wanted to clarify.

It is not a matter of "policy" it is a matter of Intellectual Property Rights under the law.

@ Junner2003
Anyone is free to break as many laws as they care too. Society has a well established means of dealing with such people.
His EULA does not prohibit his/her eating it;
It does prohibit use on non-Apple authorized equipment.

The only people allowed to pick and choose the laws they will obey are called Criminals.

laos · 07-21-2008, 01:56 AM

Exactly. Do what you wish, he prepared for those consequences if they are pursued.

EDIT: I wouldnt EXPECT them pursued. This is leisurely. Start making drivers though and you could scare them

violajack · 07-21-2008, 03:41 AM

Legalities, Schmegalities, I don't always drive the speed limit either, oh noes! I just want to know whether or not the wireless works. But just out of curiosity you know, not that I want to go breaking any EULAs or anything.

andif62 · 07-21-2008, 04:38 AM

BTW EULAs like that of Apple are not valid in Germany and maybe in other countries, too.

McDethWivFries · 07-21-2008, 05:30 AM

not that i have either a 2133 nor a copy of OSX, but i do find this an interesting sidenote tho.

nova · 07-21-2008, 05:43 AM

EULA's are hardly legally binding. Just because a company types up a license that you have to click "yes" to install a piece of sofware, does not automatically mean you are breaking the law just because the company said so.

EULA's are notoriously hard to enforce because the user does not have access to the EULA before purchasing and opening the software, rendering them invalid in many cases.

For more information see:

Brower v. Gateway
Step-Saver Data Systems, Inc. v. Wyse Technology
Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software Ltd.
Rich, Mass Market Software and the Shrinkwrap License (23 Colo. Law 1321.17)

Sometimes they are enforceable, though. It depends on which court you ask

But you are NOT automatically "breaking the law" by doing something that's against the EULA, especially something as trivial as installing software on an alternate piece of hardware.

McDethWivFries · 07-21-2008, 05:48 AM

yeah thats pretty true, OEM software is 'suppose' to be sold with a brand new system and only ever used on said system. Yet in most instances you can purchase OEM software by buying a piece of hardware. Also if you have an OEM copy of Windows XP for example, who would throw that out when upgrading their computer just because the EULA said that it has to be used ONLY with the original system?

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Junner2003 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 58	Oh, common! Get real, guys! Even if he would eat it for breakfast! It is his copy. Let him violate the Apple policies as much as he wants to! As long as he does not make any commercial use out of it, it is his damn business. So, let him eat it or put it on his Mini-Note if he likes. :roll: __________________ Listing spec's is not a review! :-)

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07-20-2008, 10:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
boostedboogie Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 32	and for the record, i knew it was against apple's policy. i never said it wasn't. just wanted to clarify.

07-21-2008, 01:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
laos Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 203	Exactly. Do what you wish, he prepared for those consequences if they are pursued. EDIT: I wouldnt EXPECT them pursued. This is leisurely. Start making drivers though and you could scare them

07-21-2008, 03:41 AM	#16 (permalink)
violajack Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	Legalities, Schmegalities, I don't always drive the speed limit either, oh noes! I just want to know whether or not the wireless works. But just out of curiosity you know, not that I want to go breaking any EULAs or anything.

07-21-2008, 04:38 AM	#17 (permalink)
andif62 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 61	BTW EULAs like that of Apple are not valid in Germany and maybe in other countries, too.

07-21-2008, 05:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
McDethWivFries Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 74	not that i have either a 2133 nor a copy of OSX, but i do find this an interesting sidenote tho.

07-21-2008, 05:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
nova Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1	EULA's are hardly legally binding. Just because a company types up a license that you have to click "yes" to install a piece of sofware, does not automatically mean you are breaking the law just because the company said so. EULA's are notoriously hard to enforce because the user does not have access to the EULA before purchasing and opening the software, rendering them invalid in many cases. For more information see: Brower v. Gateway Step-Saver Data Systems, Inc. v. Wyse Technology Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software Ltd. Rich, Mass Market Software and the Shrinkwrap License (23 Colo. Law 1321.17) Sometimes they are enforceable, though. It depends on which court you ask But you are NOT automatically "breaking the law" by doing something that's against the EULA, especially something as trivial as installing software on an alternate piece of hardware.

07-21-2008, 05:48 AM	#20 (permalink)
McDethWivFries Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 74	yeah thats pretty true, OEM software is 'suppose' to be sold with a brand new system and only ever used on said system. Yet in most instances you can purchase OEM software by buying a piece of hardware. Also if you have an OEM copy of Windows XP for example, who would throw that out when upgrading their computer just because the EULA said that it has to be used ONLY with the original system?